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Response To The Presidential Elections of 2012

by Rich Carey on November 15, 2012

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Excellent analysis by Dutch Sheets

It has been a week since the presidential elections in America Many have asked me for a response. I felt it wise to wait a few days in order to think, process and prayerfully consider my opinions. And though it is probably impossible to filter out all of my own thoughts, theologies and paradigms in order to hear only the Lord’s. I have made a great effort to do so.

The waiting has also allowed me to read and process numerous responses from other spiritual leaders, which has been beneficial. As you can imagine, there are several views among these leaders as to why Barack Obama won the election. I have decided to use theirs to frame mine. This is a longer than average response, but I believe many people would prefer clear, thoughtful responses at this crucial time:

1} Some are saying this election is simply a sign of the end-times, that we are marching toward Armageddon, and nothing can be done to stop it. In their thinking, it has all been pre-planned by God.

Without arguing eschatology, I’ll simply state this isn’t my view, and that my theology allows considerably more time to accomplish much before the Lord returns.

2) Another position I’ve heard often is that God is sovereign, so we shouldn’t worry about the results. These individuals’ definition of God’s sovereignty means that He is in control of everything, therefore they contend that nothing happens on earth which He doesn’t cause or directly allow. To them, the results of this election must be Gods will and His purposes will definitely be accomplished. Their bottom line response then, is, “Don’t worry about it. In fact rejoice.”

Those who espouse this doctrine can often be heard making statements along the lines of. “Put your faith in God. not a leader or political party Regardless of who wins – He is still on the throne and knows what He is doing. Trust Him.” This thinking comforts many, which is usually the context of the statements. Unfortunately, this theology also removes from us any responsibility for the outcome.

I struggle with this explanation, just as I do Ihe first one. I don’t believe the fact that God is sovereign equates Him to being responsible for everything that occurs on earth I contend that most, if not all. of what occurs on earth is the result of choices we humans make. Common sense alone dictates that many things will take place on earth today that are not God’s will, nor did he “allow” them for some unknown reason (i.e.. murder, rape, immorality, idolatry, etc.).

The solace we take from blaming bad things on God’s sovereignty is not only bad theology: it often breeds irresponsibility. I can accept any encouragement to keep my faith in God, rather than a person or political party and I do, in fact, make every attempt to do this. This doesn’t change the fact, however, that it does matter greatly who is the President or leader of a nation In fact, scripture makes very clear that entire nations were sometimes judged with great devastation (and others were blessed!) because of the actions of their leader!

3) The third explanation I’ve heard is that many of us simply have a wrong perspective about America and the election, a paradigm rooted in pride, nationalism and a desire for American exceptionalism. They contend that God is simply restructuring the nations, moving the chess pieces in order to accomplish His purposes, and America’s economic, spiritual and moral demise is all a part of this.

They further imply that those of us who endeavor to make a spiritual demand on what we perceive as America’s covenantal roots and promises – asking God to reconnect us to them – are guilty of looking back, not forward. Our appeals for the Lord to pour out His Spirit today, just as He has in our history, are chided as living In the past, not the future. Those of us who cry out for, prophesy concerning and believe that a Third Great Awakening is near are mocked as yearning for the past.

Let me say very clearly, I do believe an awakening has already begun, an outpouring of the Holy Spirit that will impact the world more than any in history. I believe this will include America, as well, impacting it on the scale of our First and Second Great Awakenings. I also believe America can be reformed, restoring us to our God-ordained purpose, though this will take years to accomplish. I believe these two goals – awakening and reformation – define my calling.

In light of the above criticisms, however, I have taken an honest and deep look into my heart and mind to see if my passion for an awakening in America is rooted in pride or nationalism. Is it, as the article stated, to keep America number one in wealth and power? I can honestly say that I never remember having such a thought. I weep, not over the potential loss of wealth, power or status, but over souls and the possible forfeiture of God’s purposes. I weep over 55 million aborted destinies, and the hideous potential of another 50 million. And I can truly say the intercessors and leaders I know well have the same motivations. I’ve never heard even one of them nostalgically lament the loss of America’s status They are, in fact some of the most unselfish people I know.

My response to those who would have us simply “move on” and “accept” the murder of babies and the loss of a generation to Hell – which is exactly what will happen if we don’t receive a Third Great Awakening – is short and decisive never!

4) The fourth explanation offered is that America is being judged, and that Barack Obama and his policies are part of the judgment. The reasons given for the judgment are the inevitable result of God’s laws of sowing and reaping, and His determination to ‘wake us up’ as a nation. Many of these individuals believe the results were inevitable – no amount of hard work or prayer could have turned the tide I certainly believe America is and will continue to reap judgment. And I believe the fruit from the reelection of Barack Obama will be our most severe judgment to date. Let us not forget that the political party Americans just voted back into power boldly favors abortion, homosexuality, homosexual marriage, and that they voted God and the support of Israel out of their platform. And. I might add, boo-ed when God was put back in the platform after the potential fallout was realized. God is not mocked, however, and will have the last word.

Our economy will surfer greatly. The financial devastation and quality-of-care deterioration associated with socialized medicine will be staggering: more liberal, pro-abortion. Constitution disregarding. anti-God Supreme Court justices will be appointed (meaning more babies will die. marriage will be dishonored and immorality will be defended); Islam will be emboldened; our military will be weakened; and devastations from natural disasters will continue and perhaps increase. This is the short list.

The fact that Obama is a judgment, his policies will increase judgments, and this will be used by God to turn America Is clear to me What is not so dear is whether or not the outcome was controlled by God as a part of His judgment, or if He was giving us another choice and we rejected it I cannot agree that because America had gone too far. God mandated the outcome. I believe He was stilt offering America an opportunity for grace. We chose judgment not God.

There were too many strategies, dreams and assignments given by the Holy Spirit for me to believe God was not offering us a different outcome. But we must always remember these things are just that – offers – not guarantees. God makes these offers, and then He watches and measures our response. This brings me to the final explanation I’ve heard.

5) The fifth and final explanation is there simply wasn’t enough desperation, prayer, repentance and humility on the part of the church in America- Others disagree, contending that millions prayed concerning this election, and there was enough. One leader boldly proclaimed he was positive there had been enough effort, therefore God caused Obama to be elected for other reasons.

Of course, only God really knows for sure if this is true; the rest of us are merely offering educated opinions. Personally, I’m not so certain there was enough effort by the church. I don’t believe God was looking for quick, easy, one or two sentence prayers offered up during our quiet times or normal church services. I’m afraid most believers in the United States are still looking for convenient, inexpensive answers to our plight. There are none. God was looking for sacrifice, passion and desperation.

To illustrate my point, how many congregations in America do you think turned even one of their services into prayer meetings? I can guarantee you not one in ten thousand did so. How many of them conducted even one church-wide prayer meeting? I would be surprised if the total lime most churches gave to public prayer for the elections over the month leading up to it equaled even fifteen minutes. How many pastors prayed a total of an hour concerning the election? I’m confident I have international students who prayed more for this election than the average American pastor I would exhort those who are “certain” there was “enough prayer” to be somewhat cautious.

There are times when God. in His perfect balance of mercy and justice, can save through the prayers of a small remnant. However, I believe He is asking more from us at this time in our history. Until the desperation and commitment of more believers is commensurate with our condition, I don’t believe He can heal us. Obviously, in order for this to happen, we will have to change the watered down, make-it-quick-and-easy version of American Christianity we created to grow our churches.

Finally. I want to address the question. “Were the efforts and prayers of those who did offer them simply wasted?” The answer is a resounding NO!

I woke up Wednesday, the morning after the elections, thinking of Wilberforce. the great English statesman who spearheaded the effort to remove slavery from the British Empire. It took him 40 years, but he and his co-laborers won the battle. They did so incrementally God gave the same one-word encouragement – “Wilberforce” – to two other friends of mine on the same morning. Just as He did for Wilberforce and his fellow reformers. God is storing up every prayer we prayed, and every act of obedience we performed. Nothing was wasted.

It would also be appropriate to think that our prayers and worship accomplished nothing at the present time and will only be used later. The Holy Spirit spoke to another friend of mine the morning after the election saying, “Your prayers and worship did prevail… though not in the way you wanted. Because of them, however. I will now deal with this man who has mocked Me and My laws.”

Two more friends of mine had dreams in which Barack Obama was named Belshazzar {see Daniel chapter 5). This was the ruler in Babylon who saw a hand writing on the wall of his palace – as lie and his friends were mocking God. The ominous message written by the hand of God was, “You have been weighed on the scales and found deficient.” The writing went on to say Belshazzar’s reign would end.

I don’t know what form the judgment of the Lord will take, but I am quite confident that God has put up with all of the mocking He intends to from Barack Obama. and that Daniel 5 is now his passage. I say this without malice or ill will, but nonetheless, confidently.

I encourage those of you who prayed and worshiped over this election – your prayers were not in vain. Just as surely as slavery became illegal in Great Britain – the day Wilberforce died! – we will prevail in our efforts to see America awakened. “Let us not lose heart in doing good, for in due time we shall reap if we do not grow weary,” (Galatians 6:9).

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gladys collins November 19, 2012 at 8:57 pm

That was an awsome blog, and it witnessed to my spirit.. Thank you for posting it ..God Bless you.

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Lucille Baskin December 20, 2012 at 10:17 am

Pastor Sheets, I am an intercessor and have been a great fan of yours for many years. I love and respect your call to intercession for this great nation. Having said that, I’m somewhat disappointed with your assessment of why President Obama won the election. Yes, he is President Obama. That is the first complaint I have about believers who say they are praying for the president. They have so much disdain (and for some, I would venture to say hatred) for him that they refuse to call him president. Their prayers are not effective. You can’t, effectively, pray good will to come to someone they’ve already condemned. The prayers most of the saints prayed leading up to the election were witchcraft prayers. They were praying that the outcome would be what they wanted it to be. The prayer Jesus taught His disciples to pray clearly instructed them to pray that God’s will be done. In the last few lines of your response to the election you have pronounced a judgment on President Obama similar to that of Belshazzar. Is this truly what the people of God should be doing? Is anything too hard for God? Cannot He even change the heart of a person who has supported abortion and homosexual marriage? Is Romney, a Mormon, without sin? Does he care for the poor? Is he not a part of a religion which once believed for years in polygamy? Pastor, sin is just sin. We can all be forgiven! God has declared from the beginning, what the end, future, destiny, or purpose of a person or thing will be. You should recognize this since it is almost a direct quote from your book, Authority in Prayer. You were referencing Isaiah 44 and 45. God anointed a heathen king to bless the people of God. Cyrus never knew God. But He chose and anointed him! Is God not the same today, yesterday and forever?? Let’s pray for the president and the nation. Don’t condemn him to a fate such as Belshazzar. God is still in control.

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Rich Carey December 21, 2012 at 1:54 pm

Lucille,

Thank you for your input on 7MountainsStrategy.com. I am not Dutch Sheets, but rather the owner of this website. I reprinted Dutch’s article because unlike you, I completely agree with his assessment. Since you took the time to comment and because your ideas reflect so much of the wrong thinking in the Church today, I wanted to respectfully share my opposing thoughts with you for prayerful consideration.

Your final comment is the hinge pin upon which your entire argument rests, and one which I wholeheartedly disagree with, which is: “God is still in control”. To challenge this statement is tricky, because so many Christians accept it to be as true as the Resurrection. However it must be challenged, because this “God is in control” theology has possibly hindered the advance of the Kingdom of God on Earth more than any other single doctrine and caused untold millions to reject the Christ as Lord.

Despite the fact that it is a widely held belief, it is not so cut and dried in scripture as most Christians think it is. It is actually rooted in Greek dualism, which some of the early Church thinkers integrated into Christianity, in direct opposition to a traditional Hebraic worldview. Please allow me to provide a dissenting argument as briefly as I can manage. I will not presume too much about what you personally believe, but I will address the mindset that exists in many Christians which you represent in your comments. Please forgive me if I imply beliefs which you do not personally hold.

By saying that God is in control, does this not imply that everything that happens on Earth is in accordance with His will? You have certainly given God the blame for the outcome of this election. Is every leader of every country in every time there by the hand and purpose of God? Stalin? Hitler? Mao? If that is true, it certainly would be disobedience to God to not obey their every edict, no matter how evil it may be. Does this sound logical and reasonable to you? More to the point, does it really represent the heart of God as He has revealed Himself in Christ? I think not.

How about the recent shootings in CT? Was that also the will of God? Is every earthquake or tsunami that kills and maims people also the will of God? Where do you draw the line with the evils and disasters that you will lay at God’s feet if He is “in control”?

In regards to prayer, if God is in control, why do we pray for Him to intervene in our affairs? Would that not be imposing our will upon Him (as you said regarding the “witchcraft prayers” regarding this election)? It would seem that if He is busy carrying out His will on Earth on His own accord, He certainly doesn’t need our input on this. It seems to me that it would be ours to simply trust that everything, no matter how evil, is somehow within His loving plan for our lives (which is essentially what you have implied in your comments). Sadly, this is the unbiblical theology of many Christians today, which effectively sidelines them in the battle for culture.

God also reveals Himself as pure, unadulterated love (which I also believe). However, it is intellectually dishonest to believe that God is love, but is also in control of everything that happens on Earth, which includes so much cruelty, suffering and death. I’ve debated atheists about this, and this is their first argument – how can a god who claims to be all powerful and in control also be all loving? Such a god is either schizophrenic or a liar.

The standard response offered here is “My ways are higher than your ways”. This smugly avoids the argument and places it firmly back in the realm of “faith”. But it does not win those who want answers to Christ. Rather, they write us off as superstitious fools. Many Christians may be content with that conclusion, but I am not because I have a Great Commission to fulfill.

Lest you think I am a heretic (and you maybe already do), please let me assure you that I believe that God is omnipotent, omnipresent and omni-powerful, just as He has revealed in scripture. I also believe He is complete, unadulterated love. By His Word everything in the Universe came into being and is sustained, but on Earth, He has chosen to largely limit Himself to the actions of His people who act on His behalf, in whom He Himself dwells. Scripture clearly teaches that He as given the Earth to man and placed it under our dominion and control. He has given us all power and authority to destroy the works of darkness. And he has placed full responsibility for what happens here with His Church (Ecclesia) – His governing body on earth which holds the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven.

Rather than saying “God is in control”, I prefer to say “God is not in control, but He is in charge”. Yes, He does use evil people to accomplish his purposes at various times, but I would say this is largely because His people did not respond to His call and in His great mercy, He will find someone to act on His behalf. But I’m confident that His preference would be to use a righteous man or woman to accomplish His will. And that certainly does not describe Barack Obama.

I am fully aware of the admonitions to “obey every authority”. But to take that out of context and ignore the over-riding principles of justice and righteousness is sheer folly. God gives authority to rulers for the purpose of bringing justice where there is injustice and righteousness where there is unrighteousness. While there is a certainly the admonition to “turn the other cheek” and allow mercy and grace to have it’s way, this does not imply that we become doormats in the face of evil.

Had the Founders of this nation embraced the idea that every leader is ordained of God and worthy of our unquestioning submission, there would be no America today. Instead there would be much, much more evil across the entire planet. They clearly resisted the unjust authorities of the day even to the point of bloodshed. And many of the leaders of this righteous insurrection were pastors who understood that without justice there can be no peace (see the Black Robe Regiment).

I do believe in the power of intercession and thank God for those of you who are called to this noble task. However, someone also needs to stand up against unrighteousness and injustice and take meaningful action beyond the prayer closet. To put all the responsibility back on God for the stupid, evil things that man does is not faith, nor is it at all commendable. In my estimation, it slanders the very character and nature of God and is the definition of taking the Lord’s Name in vain.

I do believe that God can work through Obama. I also believe He can save a nation in a day. But this would be a miracle. I believe in miracles, but I also believe in obedience to carry out His clear command, which is to disciple NATIONS and establish His Kingdom (His rule and reign) upon the earth. Dutch has much good teaching about this topic.

I absolutely do not believe Obama is God’s anointed person to lead this nation. He won this election only because many Christians either did not vote, or voted for Obama because they could not find it within themselves to vote for a Mormon. You yourself question whether Romney cares for the poor. This statement proves that you did not take the time to investigate for yourself. I believe that in spite of his Mormon faith, Romney is clearly a God-fearing man and was one of the few truly moral leaders we’ve had on the ballot for President in decades. I’ve read testimony after personal testimony of how selfless, loving and humble this man is. His business expertise could have helped turn this economy around and alleviate untold suffering that is happening right now across this nation because of the high unemployment rate. I think he would have made a decent President. Instead, we will have 4 more years of reckless deficit spending placed on the backs of our children, more of the brazen homosexual agenda pushed through our schools, more anti-Christian bigotry and intolerance in the public square, more murder of innocent babies through abortion, and a continued erosion of freedom and liberty – all actively promoted and endorsed by Barack Hussein Obama (regardless of what he says in his feel-good, deceitful speeches).

Actions speak louder than words. He has demonstrated time and again that he is opposed to many basic Christian tenets while embracing Islam, he opposes Capitalism in favor of European Socialism, and he abuses the power of his office to undermine many of the values that Bible-believing people hold dear. How any Christian can turn a blind eye to all of this and say this man is God’s choice to lead this great nation is a mystery to me. This man is not my President. I did not vote for him, I do not willing grant him authority in my life (my God-given and Constitutionally protected prerogative), and my prayer is that he will be hindered from doing further damage to our country, our people, and our Constitution. If you wish to consider that witchcraft, that’s your prerogative. I choose to believe it is a cry for righteousness and justice to return to this great nation.

I realize this may be offensive to you, but I believe it to be truth, and I submit it to you in the love of Christ.

Thanks for writing, and have a blessed Christmas,
Rich

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